Not on twitter?: it’s not due to the STL!

February 10, 2009
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Well there was a time probably back in 2007 when if you weren’t on twitter, it was due to you being one of my 6 readers from the STL. No problem, I understand and relate.

The STL is known world wide for being in the show me state, and that being said, is usually dead last at anything new or adopting anything new. People around these parts are well known for being the last in line, last to adopt, and even rejecting mass transportation which is something other big cities have made work in order to grow. No problem at all.

For some reason, obvious if you just read the above, I’ve totally given up on the STL as having any worthwhile reason to be outwardly social. In fact, anytime I go anywhere such as a gathering of people, I’m always asked the question, “So what do you do for a living?”

So of course I tell them about Lookery and how knowing your audience is something really cool to know. Blank stare. Than I say, “Oh, you have heard of Quantcast, Compete dot com, or Google Analytics, right?”

Usually get that same blank stare back at me accompanied with a nervous laugh. That usually tells me, “Give up, the person is from the STL, and if I say something about twitter, they’ll say back to me something to the effect of, “Twitcher? Is that a disease or something?” Sigh, mentally I’m never in the STL. Oh, that “where do you work” conversation is usually short and to the point. I usually end it by saying, “We offer free services, so sign up next time you are online.”

Now some of you will say that twitter, and all this social media stuff like blogs is for the young people. Well that’s funny, as one of the more interesting blogger’s I have added to my feed lately is reportedly 72 years old! And of course we all know Mr. Business Golf who sometimes even finds things before I hear about them or have the inkling to try them. I think he found Plurk first as an example. He isn’t young either, but yet has adopted being online as his home quite well. He even has a Ning site set up for his Business Golf Country Club.

Back to twitter in the STL.

For some reason, one of the few STL people that I follow on twitter re-tweeted a tweetup in the STL. I was like, “What??!??! No way!” I had to go investigate.

What I found was an actual Ning site for STL twitter users. Wow. I signed up and did find that I was #72 there. Very interesting. I guess pretty soon, in another decade or so, I suspect that people from the STL will be on FriendFeed, Plurk, Strands and whatever the newest service is at the time. Remember, that might happen in 5 years to a decade.

Technically Speaking, while I’m happy to see twitter adoption happening in the STL, I’ll wait and see what the actual time line to adoption rate is for the above mentioned services. In a few weeks there will be an actual blogger from the STL featured on the Lookery blog as Featured Site of the Week. How do I know that? Obvious, if you have been one of my loyal 6!

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  • http://doctorsound.wordpress.com Andrew Bell

    found this article via google analystics from the stltwitter.ning.com page. Oh the irony. Interesting article, added you to the feed.

  • http://gregbussmann.com execbp

    I love this post. I found it from Twitter, but just so you know, I am a St Louis guy using most of the services you named, and I know there are a couple more, so all hope is not lost!

    I will be back to your blog often.

  • http://www.juliadalton.com Julia Dalton

    While I agree that STL is not on the cutting edge of…anything really, this post is very derogatory. The sarcasm and bashing is more than what is needed. I get this post though and your intentions behind it….Be controversial, draw an audience/comments, get traffic to the links, and all of those blogging heuristics everyone follows. It is a revolutionary approach really.

    Perhaps you should dig a little deeper in your research before you classify STL as a dead zone. Being in the industry myself, I think STL is doing a pretty good job at holding their own when it comes to this “new media” stuff. I have been to a several Tweetups, LinkedIn networking functions, and know of a number of St. Louis groups whether it is bloggers, Twitterers, Real Estate folks, photographers, etc all being social and using the tools you mention and many you do not.

    Perhaps I take offense because I am seeing a lot of activity and being fairly connected in STL myself I know of a lot of people throughout the area that would be exceptions on this post.

    Anyways, its your perception and you are welcome to it…I just have a different take.

  • http://rexduffdixon.com/ RexDixon

    @Julia Dalton – You know what really gets me about this? This is a day old now, and just getting read. Sure I was a bit sarcastic in my post, but on some of it, I was being pretty truthful. I'm glad you have found different people out there that have adopted things such as I mentioned above.

    @execbp – Thanks, and glad you could see through the sarcasm in spots.

    @Andrew Bell – Hey man, if it wasn't for you – and your cool Ning site – this post probably still wouldn't have been read! Now that I have found where all these STL twitter users are, maybe next time I'll even be more sarcastic!

    Glad to see that there are 3 more readers to my 6 loyal readers now.

  • http://hellyeahbitch.com mikeflynn

    Generalizations about any large group of people will usually make you come off a little closed-minded yourself, which in this case is the very thing you are trying to pin on all St. Louisans.

    …Execpt if you are talking about Puerto Ricans. I hear those dumb asses don't even use MySpace yet!

  • http://rexduffdixon.com/ RexDixon

    @mikeflynn – now that was quite funny, classifying me as closed minded and than talking about a whole group of people – Puerto Ricans as being dumb asses. Nice. I guess we each have our own form of being sarcastic assholes.

    btw, You should probably stay close to the STL, venturing into NYC might get you in a heap of trouble with that attitude! :)

  • http://hellyeahbitch.com mikeflynn

    Seriously?

    Look up the definition of joke dipshit.

    I mean…really?

  • http://rexduffdixon.com/ RexDixon

    @mikeflynn – I got it as a joke – didn't you read where I said “we each have our own form of being sarcastic assholes” – means – yes I got your joke.

  • http://scotduke.com Mr Business Golf

    Now, Now, Children… Who is winning here?

  • http://scotduke.com Mr Business Golf

    RD,
    As usual, you are on target with your observations. I have worked for a lot of different people in different cities here in our country over the past 32 years and found that when it came to technology acceptability my bosses in St Louis were the last to catch hold of the need to use anything new. I remember sitting in staff meeting in St Louis with people 15 years younger than me shoveling through paper files while I was locked and loaded with a PDA. And me not being a tech person..saddling up a PDA was like a space shot of a change for me
    It was not until someone from another state came in as CEO or President before change was made but usually only after it was shoved down the StL staff people's necks..which made the acceptance worse and the people in St Louis fell even further behind those who jumped on some thing new first.

    I have been watching those Tweets and LinkedIn notices for TweetUps and other online to offline gatherings for the St Louis area and then reading the blogs that fire up afterwords reporting how small the crowd was compared to other cities.
    Yaw, I would say that STL has got a tech crowd of some size but I would NOT reserve anything larger than a booth at Denny's to hold the meetup there.
    Sorry to be so late in jumping on commenting, but as you know I am up to my next learning Drupal… Long live Tech..and hurry up with that Web 4.0 will ya!

  • http://rexduffdixon.com/ RexDixon

    @MRBG – Yup, I also worked here on the tech scene, even at your former AT&T. From 1996-2002 as an IT consultant – I worked at some of the bigger companies around here.

    I will have to agree, the tech scene here does want to be shown or proven something works first. Never was anyone wanting to innovate. Of course these were fortune 100 companies I worked for around here, but it was a bit aggravating as the internet was taking off – open source was actually getting a foothold, and none of these companies wanted to hear it.

    Now the above post concerning twitter and my sarcastic attitude towards STL probably makes a bit more sense. I'm actually happy that there was someone who took the time to put together a Ning site, and try to get something going here locally.

    Time will tell and maybe this younger generation will get it off the ground this time. STL could be a great place for startups in general. There are a lot of things that make it so, but unfortunately there are many negatives that stop it from being so.

    Places like Boulder, CO have jumped all over it. Another great community, that actually made startups feel welcome and are benefiting from it. In fact as one person on twitter today stated – @SocialThing went to @TechStars and never looked back.

    Do I blame them? Not one bit. If the STL isn't going to help nurture a startup scene, those that want to innovate should be allowed to help the economies of Boulder, CO where startups are welcome with open arms.

    The funny thing is it took a day for someone on the STL to finally find this. So one good thing, even though I may have made my point sarcastically as possible, it does raise a bigger issue. Some people here seem to think that things are going well, and they may be in their circle. But change isn't accomplished until the entire community is on board.

    That's the hard part, and around here as I joked earlier today on twitter – if you don't know what High School you went too – you are pretty much all of the sudden not a part. That has to be dropped like the bad habit it is. Now that is something I have always wondered about, and was even asked “I'm sure other cities have things like that”

    Honestly, I've lived all over – from the east coast to the west coast – and again – totally digging in and thinking – I do not remember one place I lived or stayed for awhile that had something “like that”. Not even remotely close.

  • http://doctorsound.wordpress.com Andrew Bell

    found this article via google analystics from the stltwitter.ning.com page. Oh the irony. Interesting article, added you to the feed.

  • http://gregbussmann.com Greg Bussmann

    I love this post. I found it from Twitter, but just so you know, I am a St Louis guy using most of the services you named, and I know there are a couple more, so all hope is not lost!

    I will be back to your blog often.

  • http://www.juliadalton.com Julia Dalton

    While I agree that STL is not on the cutting edge of…anything really, this post is very derogatory. The sarcasm and bashing is more than what is needed. I get this post though and your intentions behind it….Be controversial, draw an audience/comments, get traffic to the links, and all of those blogging heuristics everyone follows. It is a revolutionary approach really.

    Perhaps you should dig a little deeper in your research before you classify STL as a dead zone. Being in the industry myself, I think STL is doing a pretty good job at holding their own when it comes to this “new media” stuff. I have been to a several Tweetups, LinkedIn networking functions, and know of a number of St. Louis groups whether it is bloggers, Twitterers, Real Estate folks, photographers, etc all being social and using the tools you mention and many you do not.

    Perhaps I take offense because I am seeing a lot of activity and being fairly connected in STL myself I know of a lot of people throughout the area that would be exceptions on this post.

    Anyways, its your perception and you are welcome to it…I just have a different take.

  • http://rexduffdixon.com/ RexDixon

    @Julia Dalton – You know what really gets me about this? This is a day old now, and just getting read. Sure I was a bit sarcastic in my post, but on some of it, I was being pretty truthful. I'm glad you have found different people out there that have adopted things such as I mentioned above.

    @execbp – Thanks, and glad you could see through the sarcasm in spots.

    @Andrew Bell – Hey man, if it wasn't for you – and your cool Ning site – this post probably still wouldn't have been read! Now that I have found where all these STL twitter users are, maybe next time I'll even be more sarcastic!

    Glad to see that there are 3 more readers to my 6 loyal readers now.

  • http://hellyeahbitch.com mikeflynn

    Generalizations about any large group of people will usually make you come off a little closed-minded yourself, which in this case is the very thing you are trying to pin on all St. Louisans.

    …Execpt if you are talking about Puerto Ricans. I hear those dumb asses don't even use MySpace yet!

  • http://rexduffdixon.com/ RexDixon

    @mikeflynn – now that was quite funny, classifying me as closed minded and than talking about a whole group of people – Puerto Ricans as being dumb asses. Nice. I guess we each have our own form of being sarcastic assholes.

    btw, You should probably stay close to the STL, venturing into NYC might get you in a heap of trouble with that attitude! :)

  • http://hellyeahbitch.com mikeflynn

    Seriously?

    Look up the definition of joke dipshit.

    I mean…really?

  • http://rexduffdixon.com/ RexDixon

    @mikeflynn – I got it as a joke – didn't you read where I said “we each have our own form of being sarcastic assholes” – means – yes I got your joke.

  • http://scotduke.com Mr Business Golf

    Now, Now, Children… Who is winning here?

  • http://scotduke.com Mr Business Golf

    RD,
    As usual, you are on target with your observations. I have worked for a lot of different people in different cities here in our country over the past 32 years and found that when it came to technology acceptability my bosses in St Louis were the last to catch hold of the need to use anything new. I remember sitting in staff meeting in St Louis with people 15 years younger than me shoveling through paper files while I was locked and loaded with a PDA. And me not being a tech person..saddling up a PDA was like a space shot of a change for me
    It was not until someone from another state came in as CEO or President before change was made but usually only after it was shoved down the StL staff people's necks..which made the acceptance worse and the people in St Louis fell even further behind those who jumped on some thing new first.

    I have been watching those Tweets and LinkedIn notices for TweetUps and other online to offline gatherings for the St Louis area and then reading the blogs that fire up afterwords reporting how small the crowd was compared to other cities.
    Yaw, I would say that STL has got a tech crowd of some size but I would NOT reserve anything larger than a booth at Denny's to hold the meetup there.
    Sorry to be so late in jumping on commenting, but as you know I am up to my next learning Drupal… Long live Tech..and hurry up with that Web 4.0 will ya!

  • http://rexduffdixon.com/ RexDixon

    @MRBG – Yup, I also worked here on the tech scene, even at your former AT&T. From 1996-2002 as an IT consultant – I worked at some of the bigger companies around here.

    I will have to agree, the tech scene here does want to be shown or proven something works first. Never was anyone wanting to innovate. Of course these were fortune 100 companies I worked for around here, but it was a bit aggravating as the internet was taking off – open source was actually getting a foothold, and none of these companies wanted to hear it.

    Now the above post concerning twitter and my sarcastic attitude towards STL probably makes a bit more sense. I'm actually happy that there was someone who took the time to put together a Ning site, and try to get something going here locally.

    Time will tell and maybe this younger generation will get it off the ground this time. STL could be a great place for startups in general. There are a lot of things that make it so, but unfortunately there are many negatives that stop it from being so.

    Places like Boulder, CO have jumped all over it. Another great community, that actually made startups feel welcome and are benefiting from it. In fact as one person on twitter today stated – @SocialThing went to @TechStars and never looked back.

    Do I blame them? Not one bit. If the STL isn't going to help nurture a startup scene, those that want to innovate should be allowed to help the economies of Boulder, CO where startups are welcome with open arms.

    The funny thing is it took a day for someone on the STL to finally find this. So one good thing, even though I may have made my point sarcastically as possible, it does raise a bigger issue. Some people here seem to think that things are going well, and they may be in their circle. But change isn't accomplished until the entire community is on board.

    That's the hard part, and around here as I joked earlier today on twitter – if you don't know what High School you went too – you are pretty much all of the sudden not a part. That has to be dropped like the bad habit it is. Now that is something I have always wondered about, and was even asked “I'm sure other cities have things like that”

    Honestly, I've lived all over – from the east coast to the west coast – and again – totally digging in and thinking – I do not remember one place I lived or stayed for awhile that had something “like that”. Not even remotely close.